Disciplinary Council - latest development

As you all should know DC consists of three people (Robert Lenz, Henk Landzaat and me) and is based on the Disciplinary Regulations every association/club/player should know. If not: drop me a line and I will send you a copy.

After elections in January BoD (or was it only the president ?) decided to add two more members to the DC: Tony Sapiano and Lazaros Papakonstantinou. Due to several reasons DC denied the increase of members and answered in that way to the BoD. Until today no more reactions .....

Members of DC are appointed by the board. From the beginning of my work in the DC I thought it would be better to get appointed by the nations. This would lead to a real neutral and independent commission. So my intention in Rain was to discuss this issue within CoN. And it was agreed (have a look in the minutes of Rain).

The current DC was never replaced or dissolved by the board. Henk Landzaat wanted to resign as from this season but I don't know if he did.

During the WC happened an incident of bad behaviour from a certain player. DC began its work as usually: asking all involved (both players (withh cc to associations presidents) and referee) for a statement. The referee answered, one player answered but not the defendant. So DC set a deadline to answer but nothing happened. At least DC decided based on the given information and send out the judgement.

During this case BoD sent a letter to DC telling "that we need to refund
this Council. The main reason being that both you and Robert Lenz are now involved in different
sectors, which in my opinion make it impossible for you to be on two sides. Thus, in the coming weeks
the board will call for a nomination of people to form the new Disciplinary Council." NO word about replacing or dissolving !

I have no problem with a new formed DC but reminded the board on the discussion held in Rain and suggested to involve CoN in this question.

After sending out the judgement it was "caught" by the president by suspending it as long as there is no new DC. Two more letters on each side and a defendant blaming me personally because he feels stronger than ever.

1. At no time the current DC was not in charge or was dissolved.
2. FISTF is on its way to a bananas republic if the president - without any legal support in this matter - is going to overrule the decision of a neutral and independent commission.
3. DC is loosing its reputation if not able to sanction misbehaviour in due time.
4. We never agreed in Rain about new elections of DC. We agreed on discussing this issue in the CoN. This does not lead automatically to new elections or new members
5. Even if he has written nor the president neither the board is going to infere in this certain matter he is doing the contrary by suspending the decision.
6. It is more than critical to have a non existing DC during an unknown time period.
7. If BoD dissolves the DC it should be done in a way everybody is able to understand.

This incident is well noticed. For me it is clear we need as soon as possible a DC appointed by the nations. On the other side I can't get rid of the feeling of personal involvements to help each other within the board (defendant and one member of the board are in the same association).

Silvio, you asked me directly in Rain if you were the problem and - because your question was just emotional and out of topic - I didn't answer. But right now I am getting more and more the feeling YOU are the problem. I know you are reading this forum ....

Janus Gersie

So you say that all this happened because of the person involved in the incident or because the new BoD does not like the current DC?

panagios wrote:So you say that all this happened because of the person involved in the incident or because the new BoD does not like the current DC?

Both not. All happened because
1. The president is not able or not willing to act prospective
2. "One hand washes the other"

Ι think that all happened because the close friend of greek president (i hate the name banana republic) wants to play tomorrow in europa league!!!
I wrote many months before that greek president announced ithat his friend is PRESIDENT of FISTF's disciplinary council.
FISTF linger die. We must save it as soon is possible.

Silvio is a huge problem.
But Koutromanos is the other problem (and with him the crazy Papakonstantinou).
Garnier, Capponi and De Francesco are also problems because they supported people who are REAL BIG PROBLEMS (even if 2 of the 3 mentionned here resigned).