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Post  Rob Smith on Thu Aug 26, 2010 3:18 pm

who are we supposed to lodge Tournament requests with now that the FISTF board has gone AWOL.

the ATSA have been waiting since the 12th July, as to whether or not we can host an International Open on 20th November.
Nothing has been confirmed by FISTF and people are wanting to book flights from Greece and parts of Asia.

Can anyone help or have we got to wait until after the WC?
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Post  Admin on Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:48 pm

Surprinsingly they are faster to suspend people so Rob please mind the words you're using when you complain about the Board Very Happy
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Re: where to now?

Post  Rob Smith on Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:07 pm

i just want an answer so we can book the venue and people can book flights, i don't care who sanctions it, the flight costs are going up by the day

for the good of the game

not too much to ask?
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Post  wrkl on Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:45 pm

Rob Smith wrote:i just want an answer so we can book the venue and people can book flights, i don't care who sanctions it, the flight costs are going up by the day

for the good of the game

not too much to ask?

Happy to jump on this bandwagen. Have applied to hold an International Open in Wales the week prior to yours. No reply causing difficulty with venue.

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Post  kechris on Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:08 am

Because i cann't find in fistf's calendar the full program for 2010-2011 i will give you the greek international tournaments. I found in greek handbook before few days by the greek president- communication vice president of fistf. He selected to inform only the greek players...

EVENTS DATES in Greek handbook

IO of Athens 11-12/09/2010
ACROPOLIS GP of Athens 16-17/10/2010
Satellite of Athens 11-12/12/2010
IO of Athens 05-06/02/2011
Satellite of Athens 09-10/04/2011
MARATHON MAJOR of Athens 11-12/06/2011
Satellite of Athens 06-07/08/2011

In FISTF calendar you will see these tournaments:

29-30/01/2011 Satellites in Athens (GRE)
11-12/06/2011 Grand Prix in Athen (GRE)
06-07/08/2011 Satellites in Piraeus (GRE)

Different places, different dates, different toururnaments... by proffesional communication director...
jocolor jocolor jocolor jocolor jocolor

If you have more details for international tournaments by fistf's calendar please post them.
THANKS

P.S. competition manager in all greek tournaments (national and international) is the same person.
The communication vice president of fistf and greek president -financial-marketing-sport-communication director!!!
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Post  Heinz Eder on Tue Aug 31, 2010 9:13 am

very interesting, Greece has a Major Shocked this season?
this is what I have officially so far

19-Sep-10 19-Sep-10 Future Singapore Singapore
25-Sep-10 26-Sep-10 Grand Prix Belgium Verviers
10-Sep-10 10-Sep-10 International Open Argentina Buenos Aires
9-Oct-10 10-Oct-10 International Open Germany Bergkamen
23-Oct-10 23-Oct-10 Challenger Belgium Frameries
30-Oct-10 31-Oct-10 Champions League Austria Mattersburg
30-Oct-10 31-Oct-10 Europa League Italy Rome
7-Nov-10 7-Nov-10 Satellite Portugal Sassoeiros
13-Nov-10 13-Nov-10 International Open Wales Treowen
13-Nov-10 14-Nov-10 International Open Belgium Rochefort
13-Nov-10 14-Nov-10 International Open Gibraltar Gibraltar
20-Nov-10 20-Nov-10 International Open Australia Sydney
27-Nov-10 28-Nov-10 Grand Prix Germany Berlin
4-Dec-10 5-Dec-10 Grand Prix Austria Vienna
11-Dec-10 12-Dec-10 International Open Belgium Brussel
11-Dec-10 12-Dec-10 International Open Spain Madrid
18-Dec-10 19-Dec-10 Satellite Singapore Singapore
29-Jan-11 30-Jan-11 Grand Prix France Issy-les-Moulineaux
29-Jan-11 30-Jan-11 Satellite Greece Athens
12-Feb-11 13-Feb-11 International Open Malta Floriana
26-Feb-11 27-Feb-11 Satellite Argentina Rosario
5-Mar-11 6-Mar-11 Major Belgium Mons
12-Mar-11 12-Mar-11 Satellite Belgium Brussel
2-Apr-11 3-Apr-11 Grand Prix Malta Valletta
3-Apr-11 3-Apr-11 International Open Malta Valletta - Individual
9-Apr-11 10-Apr-11 Major Netherlands Amsterdam
30-Apr-11 1-May-11 International Open Gibraltar Gibraltar
7-May-11 8-May-11 Grand Prix Argentina Rosario
7-May-11 8-May-11 International Open Spain Mallorca
14-May-11 15-May-11 Grand Prix/IO Finland Helsinki - Individual
28-May-11 29-May-11 Major Italy Bologna
4-Jun-11 4-Jun-11 Future Belgium Frameries
11-Jun-11 12-Jun-11 Grand Prix Greece Athens
25-Jun-11 26-Jun-11 Grand Prix Italy Rome
3-Jul-11 4-Jul-11 Grand Prix Spain Barcelona
16-Jul-11 17-Jul-11 International Open Germany Rain
16-Jul-11 17-Jul-11 Satellite Belgium Templeuve
22-Jul-11 24-Jul-11 World Cup Italy Rome
6-Aug-11 7-Aug-11 Satellite Greece Pireaus
13-Aug-11 14-Aug-11 Major Austria Mattersburg

that's what I have, but maybe I missed something!? Question

Heinz

kechris wrote:Because i cann't find in fistf's calendar the full program for 2010-2011 i will give you the greek international tournaments. I found in greek handbook before few days by the greek president- communication vice president of fistf. He selected to inform only the greek players...

EVENTS DATES in Greek handbook

IO of Athens 11-12/09/2010
ACROPOLIS GP of Athens 16-17/10/2010
Satellite of Athens 11-12/12/2010
IO of Athens 05-06/02/2011
Satellite of Athens 09-10/04/2011
MARATHON MAJOR of Athens 11-12/06/2011
Satellite of Athens 06-07/08/2011

In FISTF calendar you will see these tournaments:

29-30/01/2011 Satellites in Athens (GRE)
11-12/06/2011 Grand Prix in Athen (GRE)
06-07/08/2011 Satellites in Piraeus (GRE)

Different places, different dates, different toururnaments... by proffesional communication director...
jocolor jocolor jocolor jocolor jocolor

If you have more details for international tournaments by fistf's calendar please post them.
THANKS

P.S. competition manager in all greek tournaments (national and international) is the same person.
The communication vice president of fistf and greek president -financial-marketing-sport-communication director!!!

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Post  kechris on Wed Sep 01, 2010 2:08 am

that's what I have, but maybe I missed something!?

Maybe you don't understand the plans which are organising behind you, me and rest table soccer community.
Do you feel fool because you help the new BoD and they don't care for you?
If you want i can send you the greek-official- calendar.
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Re: where to now?

Post  Heinz Eder on Wed Sep 01, 2010 10:00 am

Thx for your offer, but I don't need the greek calender, because this is not important to me.
Actually there is no major in greece in the next season, the deadline for majors is over since 15th of april, so i think it is a bit late to send a request in july. Maybe Greece got a Major for the season 2011/2012 (i'm curious about it, which other major will be cancelled, because there are only 4 allowed and the handbook isn't changed).
One more time you see black and white, i don't support the board, i support FISTF, please keep that difference always in mind. my only intention is and was to help preparing the new season, because the current board hadn't the experience to do that and I didn't want that players and clubs pay the price for a meeting between representatives of associations and FISTF.

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kechris wrote:that's what I have, but maybe I missed something!?

Maybe you don't understand the plans which are organising behind you, me and rest table soccer community.
Do you feel fool because you help the new BoD and they don't care for you?
If you want i can send you the greek-official- calendar.

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Post  kechris on Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:27 pm

One more time you see black and white, i don't support the board, i support FISTF, please keep that difference always in mind

If you want really to support fistf you must stop help this no democracy BoD.
Because fistf is the congress no the BoD. BoD members can change in any time if the congress take this decision.
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Post  Heinz Eder on Thu Sep 02, 2010 1:36 pm

My work ends after the World Cup.
Then the new season started, the World Cup is over, and the communication for the EC is already out, the only thing left is that I will provide a list of transfers I received so far to the WR officer for updating the database.
Then I'm out and will have a look on the happenings from outside only. I only wanted to prepare the new season and the WC the way it was done the last years, or do you really want to project all the personal problems between some people to the players and clubs?
I don't think that's the right way that players and clubs have to feel the conflict on administrative level directly.
Anyway whatever will be the result of Rain, those people will have time till April 2011 now to change things and then start to prepare the season 2011/2012.

my part ends here.

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kechris wrote:One more time you see black and white, i don't support the board, i support FISTF, please keep that difference always in mind

If you want really to support fistf you must stop help this no democracy BoD.
Because fistf is the congress no the BoD. BoD members can change in any time if the congress take this decision.

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Post  kechris on Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:27 am

Heinz Eder wrote:My work ends after the World Cup.
Heinz

I want to remember you that your work finished in January.
You are not sport director yet.
If mr Stefano De Francesco selected you for his assistant that is your and his problem.
I know that De Francesco was sport director until yerterday (he retired 1st september) so your work as his assistant stopped the same time.
YES OR NOT?
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Post  player on Fri Sep 03, 2010 3:18 pm

kostas,
please stop bullying heinz, he was a great guy for fistf, always putting the sport in front in stead of personal issues like many others did!!!!! hopefully he will be back soon!


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Post  kechris on Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:09 pm

Hi Eric.
I have the same opinion with you only in the first half of your phrase. Heinz is a good guy.
But i have other opinion for how usefull is him as sport director.
I propose him last week in this forum for secretary
Sorry Eric but i cann't accept someone for a sport director in fistf because he is good guy and he spend many times for it.

Have you table in Brasil?
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Post  player on Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:19 pm

no table here, time for a rest Smile))

so we are watching the world cup online!?

hopefully they will put some news online...

although i am very disappointed in Fistf. I think today is a very important day!
MAybe heinz and vincent should not come back in the board, even though i am their supporters, maybe its time for a new fresh air!

but please stop the critism towards some people with good intentions! The one to blame is Catania!


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Post  kechris on Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:27 pm

Of course catania and his company are dangerous for fistf's future.
But we 'pay" for this, because Vincent and Heinz did many mistakes in past.
Vincent is fantastic in communication but no for president.
I hope for a democratic night in Rain.
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Post  player on Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:30 pm

i think you can not speak about catania and his group. Because i know information that the relation between catania and his former board colluegees was not good. i think only garnier was on his side!

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Post  kechris on Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:45 pm

I can speak because Koutroumanos is the fanatical supporter of Catania.
Catania follow the same combinations of koutroumanos in greece. No elections, dialogue with closed ears, and he decides for ALL. Tournaments transfers disciplinary etc.
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Post  player on Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:54 pm

i have to say that koutroumanis i only know because i met him 5 times and to me he is a great guy, i have never seen him doing anything good nor bad.... so i cant judge.

catania from personal issues i know he think he can just do whatever he wants! without listening to people or looking to facts...

as said before, fistf is not necessary for the players!

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Post  kechris on Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:28 am

Yes we know that you met him.
Everybody in Greece had hear him, saying that he did a big offer to you to play for his club.
Maybe next year.
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Post  player on Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:58 pm

i dont know about this offer Smile

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Post  kechris on Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:47 am

maybe he used your name for his targets...
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Post  kechris on Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:52 am

player wrote:

as said before, fistf is not necessary for the players!

I must agree with Eric. THIS FISTF -without elections- is not necessary for the players.
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Post  kechris on Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:55 am

Please can anyone give me an official answer?
In fistf calendar next weekend no international tournament in Athens.
But greek president said to few players that we will play.
Fistf handbook ask announcement 3 months before.
We are 5 days before and we haven't news.
Last months 2 international tournaments postponed in greece without any information to players.
My teamamtes wants to organise next weekend with their family but they still waiting for a responsible answer.

This is the vision of Catania nad koutroumanos....
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Post  kechris on Wed Sep 08, 2010 6:13 pm

Today morning many (no all) greek players took a sms!!! for an international open THIS weekend in Athens. 72 hours before kick off!!!

This tournament is not in FISTF's CALENDAR until now!!!

The competition manager -vice president of Fistf - decide don't respect the rules and the handbbook.
So the entry fees for open category is 15 (fifteen) euros !!!!! The handbook for I.O MAXIMUM 8e. About 100% more expensive.

The handbook asks 3 months earlier the invitation for players no 72 hours with sms without information in fistf's site and calendar.

THIS BoD WILL DESTROY TABLE SOCCER IN FEW MONTHS.
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Post  Admin on Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:01 pm

At the same time the guys friom Australia still wait a confirmation of their tournament for more than 2 months... Shocked Shocked Shocked
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